Posts by Room 215

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Manufactured conflict and the media

by Coded Logic in

manufactured outrage.

false equivalence.

every issues has "two sides".

Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

Thanks Paul for sharing this incredibly moving experience. Since you're from a multi-generational JW family, that must mean your dad, in addition to enduring the pain of loss of you and your family, also has to grapple with the guilt of feeling he has betrayed all of the family values inculcated in him.

Please take solace in the fact that he is at least awakened and mentally free (late perhaps, but never too late); encourage him not to recriminate himself but just move toward the periphery, a bit closer to the door.

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses view the governing body differently since seeing them on the TV?

by jambon1 in

jw
friends

i think this may be a bigger issue for the society than we realise.. when you consider that witnesses have now had well over a year of regularly seeing their 'channel to god' with their own eyes, what do you think they're thinking?.

i'm going to put this as respectfully as i can; these men are clearly a bunch of utter clowns who are laughably inadequate to present a tv show, but also, they are now ridiculously discredited due to the absolute shite that they've spoken in these laughable productions.. consider things from a jw's perspective; tony morris, stephen lett & geoffrey jackson are 'the channel' that makes their religion 'special'.

these men are the channel god is using to lead his people in the modern day.

Room 215

That is most certainly true in the case of Tony Morris, and to a lesser extent, Lett and Herd. I believe it's beginning to dawn on them that exposing them for a closer look has been a miscalculation. I would expect their video appearances to be less frequent, less extemporaneous (i.e. more scripted or tele-prompted and on-message), with more of the "helpers" assuming the bulk of the on-screen time.

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141st Gilead Gradution Talks 1st Part

by Listener in

these grads.

are a special people indeed.

how on earth they put up with all this indoctrination is beyond me, months of intense brainwashing.

Room 215

I wonder about the current curriculum at Gilead since Splane debunked most of Freddie Franz's "type-anti-type" parallels which purported to prefigure the remnant and which made up so much of the content taught there:

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/alltimejeff.php

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JW Carts Cause Thousands to Start Studying!!!

by Drifting Away in

jw
friends

i would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.

anyone have any idea?

if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.

Room 215

I can't think of a less productive way of disseminating a dire "join us or face imminent death" message than by standing mutely alongside a literature cart like the old Cigar Store Indian (I wonder how many cigars those Indians sold, anyway.)

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BEARE OF INDEPENDANCE - Leaked Talk On My YouTube Channel

by pale.emperor in

brother melvin mallett delivers a talk entitled beware the spirit of independence.

(because, you know, thinking for yourself is not what jesus wants.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znpzkakaki.

oh, and remember folks... this isnt a cult or anything!.

Room 215

" So it's 11 years old but still they were stressing against independent thinking way back then."

When have they ever done otherwise?

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JWs ----( fill in the blank)

by minimus in

jw
friends

what say you?.

Room 215

JWs... a Religion of/for The Willfully Ignorant

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Letter about changes in book 100 year kingdom

by Rather Be the Hammer in

yesterday a letter was read in our congregation.

it said that there have been doctrinal changes in many chapters of the book 'god's kingdom rules' so everyone but especially the conductor must be sure to use the latest update of the book.. this book is only ...how old?

two years?

Room 215

Their books have an amazingly short shelf life!!

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You're fired!...Damage control in October broadcast

by ab.ortega in

this new broadcast features interviews with bethelites from south africa that were fired reassigned to the ministry field.

i almost feel sorry for these people who gave their all thinking they would be taken care of for who-knows how many years.

however they were let go in the blink of an eye.

Room 215

It would seem they are exporting a considerable percentage of disillusioned, disgruntled 40/50-somethings into the local congregations; it's gonna hard be for at least some of them not to vent their gripes to the locals.

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Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?

by HereIgo in

i have never understood this.

was it because of legal reasons?

i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.

Room 215

So I guess there won't be any court stenographers in the New World....